Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/30/1998 09:27 AM Senate FIN

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HOUSE BILL 210                                                               
                                                                               
     "An Act relating to the extension of contracts for the                    
     sale   and   delivery   of   in-bond   merchandise   at                   
     international airports."                                                  
                                                                               
[SFC-98, Tape 147, Side B]                                                     
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE  NORMAN   ROKEBERG,  SPONSOR,   informed  the                   
committee  that his  district was  the  airport district  in                   
Anchorage.  He  explained that  HB  210  would counteract  a                   
problem  with a  bill passed  two years  prior, HB  543, the                   
Airport  Leasing bill.  The measure  had language  regarding                   
duty-free  contracts.  He  referred  to  a  March  19  legal                   
opinion  by   legislative  counsel  included   in  committee                   
handouts. The opinion addressed  an ambiguity in the statute                   
passed in  HB 543  that had contributed  to problems  in the                   
release  of the  airport  regulations.  The regulations  had                   
been in the  drafting stage for two years, since  HB 543 was                   
passed.  The department  [Department  of Transportation  and                   
Public Facilities  (DOT/PF)] had  created some 185  pages of                   
regulations. He  wanted the regulations  issued and  the law                   
clarified  so that  business  activities  could continue  in                   
airports throughout the state.                                                 
                                                                               
Representative Rokeberg  detailed that  Section 1 of  HB 210                   
was a technical  correction or explanation of  the intent of                   
HB 543 when  it was passed during the  previous session. The                   
section would  provide very clearly  that the duration  of a                   
new  lease  under the  section  could  not exceed  55  years                   
(existing in  previous law)  and also  that the  duration of                   
the extension of a lease could not exceed 55 years.                            
                                                                               
Representative Rokeberg directed attention  to page 2, lines                   
1  and  2,  which  indicated  that  the  commissioner  would                   
approve  application of  a new  land lease  for an  extended                   
term under  the section without  offering the land  to lease                   
to  another  person and  without  regard  to the  number  of                   
lessees,  prior leases,  or lease  extensions  for the  same                   
land.  He noted  that  the  language went  on  to cover  the                   
airport's basic  plan, long-range plan,  and the need  for a                   
best-interest finding (BIF)  on the part of the  state if it                   
did not to approve a new lease.                                                
                                                                               
Representative Rokeberg explained  that the problem occurred                   
when the  existing law was  interpreted; another  portion of                   
statute indicated  that there was a  55-year maximum period.                   
The intent  of the legislature  in HB  543 was to  allow for                   
the extension  of an existing  leasehold, but also  to allow                   
the existing leaseholder to step  out of the lease and enter                   
into a new  one when the old lease expired.  He provided the                   
example  of  a family  in  Anchorage  who  had been  at  the                   
Anchorage International Airport since  1953; their lease was                   
almost 40  years old. Given  that there were only  around 15                   
years left  on the lease,  the necessity to  have continuity                   
required the ability to step out  of the old lease and enter                   
into a new  one. The language in HB 210  would allow that by                   
clarifying the intent of HB 543.                                               
                                                                               
Representative  Rokeberg   relayed  history   pertaining  to                   
Section 2. The bill had  been brought before the legislature                   
the  previous year  and Senator  Parnell had  indicated that                   
there could be constitutional  concerns about the ability to                   
extend  a  contract that  had  been  bid out.  In  response,                   
Section  2 had  been  redrafted to  stipulate  that a  lease                   
could  be extended  if  provided for  in  the contract;  the                   
extension would be no longer than the original lease term.                     
                                                                               
Representative Rokeberg referred to  an amendment that would                   
be offered.                                                                    
                                                                               
Senator Adams  pointed to  language on page  1, line  13; he                   
believed the  word "shall"  should be  changed to  "may." He                   
opined that  unless the  language was  changed, it  could be                   
interpreted  that  a  person  with  a  55-year  lease  could                   
continue on endlessly and there  would be no competition. He                   
thought  there might  be a  combination  of land-leases  and                   
wanted language  to be specific  to each one. He  thought it                   
was a policy  question that the committee  needed to closely                   
consider;  the  issue was  the  state's  ability to  compete                   
after each of the leases was up.                                               
                                                                               
Representative Rokenberg  replied that  the word  "shall" on                   
page 1, line 13 was the heart  of HB 543. He referred to the                   
problem of the inability or  failure of [DOT/PF] to re-offer                   
to two  existing tenants.  He pointed  out that  the section                   
being questioned did  not relate to extending  the leases of                   
duty-free  spaces;  there  was   a  distinction  in  statute                   
between the land and space leases.                                             
                                                                               
Senator Adams questioned whether there  was a lease for each                   
separate  airport or  land  lease. Representative  Rokenberg                   
responded  that  the policy  had  to  be clarified  for  new                   
leases and the technical change was needed to do that.                         
                                                                               
Representative  Rokenberg  directed  attention  to  handouts                   
related to  HB 476,  a bill in  process for  which testimony                   
had been given by the  department. The department could live                   
with  the language  in Section  1; the  language in  the "K"                   
version  of  the   CS  was  language  that   came  from  the                   
department. The department understood  the need to issue the                   
regulations in order  for airports to get  on with business.                   
He   added  that   the   department   understood  that   the                   
legislature's  policy (mentioned  by Senator  Adams) was  to                   
allow leases to  be extended and/or new  leases entered into                   
without the leases  going back on the market as  long as (as                   
provided in  HB 543) they met  the BIF of the  state and did                   
not  collide  with the  long-range  plan  of the  particular                   
airport.                                                                       
                                                                               
Senator Torgerson questioned  the competitive-bid portion of                   
the bill.  He also wondered  whether the bill  addressed the                   
ability of  a lessee to sub-lease.  Representative Rokenberg                   
replied that there  was nothing in the bill  related to sub-                   
letting,  though  he  had recommended  that  the  department                   
implement a policy  that the leases stipulate  that a lessee                   
should not be able to  profit from a sub-lease situation and                   
that in  such a  situation, the profit  would revert  to the                   
state (the landlord).                                                          
                                                                               
Representative Rokenberg  continued that it was  in the best                   
interest of the  state to allow existing tenants  to be able                   
to renew  leases without going  out to competitive  bid. The                   
bill would  ensure that was implemented  in the regulations.                   
He reported that he had  been in communication with lessees;                   
unfortunately the  department was  still unable to  make the                   
extensions.                                                                    
                                                                               
Senator  Torgerson asked  whether a  determination would  be                   
made   through  the   BIF  about   the   new  rental   rate.                   
Representative Rokenberg  responded that  rates were  set in                   
regulation  and  there  was rate  differentiation  for  land                   
leases;  everyone  paid the  same.  For  airports, the  only                   
differential was "aviation user"  or "non-aviation user." He                   
thought the  state should change  its policy and  get closer                   
to fair-market value for the land.                                             
                                                                               
In   response   to   a  question   by   Senator   Torgerson,                   
Representative   Rokenberg   answered   that   all   airport                   
regulations were  affected for both international  and rural                   
airports, which had two separate sets of regulations.                          
                                                                               
Co-chair Sharp reported that the  advocates had been working                   
for years  to get the issue  cleaned up because some  of the                   
small   users  on   the  "East   Ramp"   of  the   Fairbanks                   
International  Airport had  leases  that were  less than  55                   
years,  short-term leases,  or  expired  leases. Before  [HB
543]  was  passed  (which they  thought  would  address  the                   
issue), the department  was going to insist  that the leases                   
went to public  bid; this meant that anyone  else could come                   
in a get a hangar a  lot cheaper and leaseholders would have                   
to  compete against  someone who  had no  investment in  the                   
property. He maintained  that that had been one  of the main                   
motivators  behind  HB 543,  but  the  issue was  still  not                   
resolved  because  of  the complexity  of  the  regulations,                   
especially  not  being  able  to  allow  extensions  without                   
public bid.  He thought one  of the reasons the  prices were                   
not market driven  was that one of the purposes  of the land                   
was to stimulate business and  airport activity. It was very                   
difficult  for someone  to sell  a  piece of  property on  a                   
lease with  four or five years  left because no one  knew if                   
the  lease  could  be  extended  to  amortize  the  cost  of                   
additional improvements.                                                       
                                                                               
Representative Rokenberg agreed with  the analysis and added                   
that the  original bill  also affected  major, multi-million                   
dollar  investments in  the Anchorage  International Airport                   
air cargo business  because of the lack of  comfort with the                   
department's policies. He wanted the  policy to be clear and                   
implemented properly  in regulations, which was  the purpose                   
of  HB  210.  He  pointed to  three  pages  of  "convoluted"                   
regulations  in  the  committee packet  related  to  leasing                   
schedules. He emphasized that the  policy articulated by the                   
legislature [in  HB 543] should  be re-affirmed  and cleared                   
up  [in  HB  210]  so  that  the  state  could  conduct  its                   
business.                                                                      
                                                                               
PAUL  BOWERS, DIRECTOR,  STATEWIDE  AVIATION, DEPARTMENT  OF                   
TRANSPORTATION AND  PUBLIC FACILITIES  (via teleconference),                   
testified that  the department was  not formally  opposed to                   
the  bill. However,  he had  been  asked to  expound on  the                   
department's  viewpoint  that the  bill  would  not be  good                   
policy. He  listed reasons,  explaining that  the department                   
owned and operated  some 265 of the  287 public-use airports                   
in the  state and clearly  had an interest in  fostering and                   
promoting a  strong aviation  transportation infrastructure.                   
Providing the  infrastructure cost  around $19  million each                   
year for  the rural airport system  alone; revenues amounted                   
to less  than half that  amount. The difference  between the                   
operating  costs  and  the  revenues  was  made  up  through                   
general fund  money, which  had been cut  every year  by the                   
legislature.  The only  way to  make up  the difference  was                   
from  market-value  pricing   of  land-lease  revenues.  The                   
department believed that  the perpetual-lease extension that                   
HB 210 would create would exacerbate the situation.                            
                                                                               
Mr.  Bowers  stated  that the  department  agreed  that  the                   
lessee should  be compensated  for improvements;  that would                   
happen   under  both   existing   and   proposed  Title   17                   
regulations.  However, the  monetary value  of the  right to                   
the underlying  property should accrue to  the land's owner,                   
not the  lessee, and  the revenue gained  should be  used to                   
help the  state operate  its airport infrastructure.  From a                   
public-policy  perspective,  the  department  believed  that                   
leasing regulation should foster  and promote public airport                   
aviation   infrastructure   and   not  create   what   would                   
effectively  become "leasehold  heirlooms."  The bill  would                   
preclude  competition  from  limiting space,  which  from  a                   
long-term perspective would lock up innovation.                                
                                                                               
Mr.   Bowers  emphasized   that  competition   in  an   open                   
marketplace was  good; without it,  many advances  would not                   
exist,  including  jet  engines, pressurized  aircraft,  and                   
telecommunications.  He argued  that  perpetual leases  were                   
bad  policy; 55  years  was a  long time  in  any case,  but                   
especially  in aviation.  In  just the  past  50 years,  the                   
industry  has  progressed from  World  War  II B-24s  to  BI                   
Stealth Bombers, DC-3s, and so  on. He claimed that the rate                   
of  innovation was  exponential  and  that long-term  leases                   
would effectively preclude economic development.                               
                                                                               
Co-chair  Sharp asked  whether all  the leases  were 55-year                   
leases. Mr. Bowers answered that  HB 543 had stipulated that                   
the  term maximum  was 55  years;  many of  the leases  were                   
shorter than that. Generally, a  lease was entered into that                   
was long  enough to capitalize any  improvements made. Under                   
those terms, putting in a  hot-dog stand would not warrant a                   
55-year lease.                                                                 
                                                                               
Co-chair   Sharp  asked   whether   the  regulations   being                   
developed  over  the past  two  years  would allow  for  the                   
current value  of improvements on  a particular lease  to be                   
returned to the  leaseholder who was losing the  lease if it                   
went to public  bid and someone else got it,  or whether the                   
value go to the state. Mr.  Bowers answered that there was a                   
transition  provision  in  the proposed  regulations  (Title                   
17).                                                                           
                                                                               
Co-chair  Sharp clarified  that anything  over-and-above the                   
lease amount of the re-bid  lease with improvements would go                   
back  to the  original lease  owner. He  wanted to  get away                   
from  the  state  confiscating improvements  because  of  an                   
expired lease.  Mr. Bowers answered that  there were clearly                   
provisions in  existing and proposed regulations  that would                   
enable compensation; there  was no way the  state would take                   
over the property unless it  was absolutely abandoned by the                   
leaseholder.                                                                   
                                                                               
Co-chair  Sharp described  a possible  scenario  in which  a                   
present  occupant  of  a  lease with  $2  million  worth  of                   
improvements wanted  to continue with  the lease and  had to                   
go to a public bid.  He asked whether the lease-holder would                   
basically get  $2 million worth  of "free chips" on  the bid                   
and would only  be bidding against the  actual lease amount.                   
Mr. Bowers replied in the affirmative.                                         
                                                                               
Co-chair   Sharp  asked   whether  the   described  scenario                   
represented a change from the  previous proposal three years                   
prior. Mr.  Bowers responded that  Title 17  regulations had                   
gone through  a dramatic metamorphosis and  had been through                   
the public process.                                                            
                                                                               
Senator Adams  queried language. He  wanted to find  a piece                   
of legislation  that would be  more acceptable  to Alaskans.                   
He  reiterated his  earlier question  regarding language  on                   
page 1, line 13 related to  the 55 years for each land lease                   
and changing the  word "shall" to "may"  (resulting in: "the                   
commissioner may  approve the application").  The department                   
would then have a chance to  review the leases so that other                   
Alaskans  could  compete  fairly  after  capitalizing  their                   
present  leases. Mr.  Bowers responded  that the  department                   
agreed  with Senator  Adams' proposed  language and  thought                   
changing  "shall" to  "may"  would be  the  best policy.  He                   
thought that  reviewing exceptions to the  limitations would                   
make more  sense than  automatically extending  every lease;                   
there would  be a  public-review process for  exceptions. He                   
suggested making  the lease  extension one-time  rather than                   
perpetual if the proposed language was not acceptable.                         
                                                                               
Senator Adams  emphasized that airport leases  in particular                   
in  rural Alaska  could take  a long  time to  get approval,                   
which made it  difficult for a small air  carrier to expand.                   
He was not sure the issue could be dealt with in HB 210.                       
                                                                               
JOHN  STEINER, ATTORNEY  GENERAL OFFICE,  DEPARTMENT OF  LAW                   
(via teleconference),  agreed that on the  surface, the idea                   
may  be  to  extend  the right  to  preferential  leases  in                   
perpetuity  to  the extent  that  the  extension or  reputed                   
lease could re-occur  regardless of how many  there had been                   
before.  He stated  that  the Department  of  Law (DOL)  had                   
noted, however,  that there were also  two pre-conditions to                   
an extension, noted in subsections (1)  and (2) on page 2 of                   
the CS (lines  3 and 5), indicating that the  lessee must be                   
found  in compliance  with the  terms of  the lease  and the                   
continuation  of  the  leasehold  must  be  consistent  with                   
written airport  operation policies and the  state's BIF. He                   
emphasized  that  the  two  subsections  contained  critical                   
pieces  of  language,  which   would  not  entirely  resolve                   
concerns by  DOL related  to general  constitutional policy,                   
but went far  towards doing so. The shell  under the certain                   
situation  was  somewhat  limited  to the  extent  that  the                   
findings  had  to  be  found before  the  shell  kicked  in;                   
however,  were  the  language  to be  changed  to  "may"  as                   
suggested by Senator Adams, the  following concerns would be                   
resolved:                                                                      
                                                                               
   1. The state constitution, in Article IX, Section 6,                        
     forbids  the transfer  of public  property, except  for                   
     public  purpose.   The  concern   was  that   a  nearly                   
     automatic  extension   without  a  review   for  public                   
     purpose  or   the  possibility  of   competition  could                   
     essentially  be  a transfer  of  fee  without a  public                   
     purpose finding.                                                          
   2. Concerns related to Article VIII, Section 2 of the                       
     state constitution,  which stipulates that land  in the                   
     public hands must be used  to the maximum extent of the                   
     people  not  to  the  maximum extent  of  a  particular                   
     private leaseholder.                                                      
   3. Article VIII, Section 10 requires that land owned by                     
     the  public be  offered  or disposed  with leases  that                   
     include safeguards  of the  public interest,  which are                   
     found  for  example  in the  land-leasing  statutes  in                   
     Title  38.05.102.073,  allowing   (similar  to  Senator                   
     Adams'   suggestion)   for   the   possibility   of   a                   
     preferential  extension in  the  public's interest  but                   
     not  a   mandatory  extension   and  limited   with  an                   
     extensive public  process to determine whether  in fact                   
     an extension would be in the public interest.                             
   4. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) had grant                      
     assurances  which airports  had to  follow as  part and                   
     parcel  of  receiving  federal  assistance  in  certain                   
     capital improvements.  Among the grant  assurances were                   
     some  requiring  that  the   land  of  the  airport  be                   
     available   under    terms   which   had    no   unjust                   
     discrimination  to all  types,  kinds,  and classes  of                   
     aeronautical use.  There was concern  that preferential                   
     extensions could  wind up foreclosing certain  kinds of                   
     uses. There  was also a grant  assurance requiring that                   
     no  exclusive right  of use  to the  airport by  anyone                   
     providing aeronautical services  be allowed. Similarly,                   
     at rural airports where there  could be limited land on                   
     the  airport that  would be  suitable for  aeronautical                   
     use, if it  happened to be locked up, there  could be a                   
     problem under  that grant  assurance. The  statement of                   
     interest  finding in  the statute  could resolve  that;                   
     nevertheless, in a  perpetual-type situation, there was                   
     the  risk  of  running  closer  to  the  constitutional                   
     limits and the FAA line.                                                  
   5. The FAA grant assurances say that a sponsor (the state                   
     of  Alaska) may  not take  or permit  any action  which                   
     would  operate to  deprive that  sponsor of  the rights                   
     and  powers necessary  to  perform  the assurances;  in                   
     other  words,  to  make sure  there  are  no  exclusive                   
     rights and no unjust discrimination.                                      
                                                                               
Mr. Steiner  continued that the  effort to clarify  that the                   
preference right  was without limit rather  than limited was                   
somewhat   troubling  as   a  constitutional   legal  policy                   
judgment,  although  it  did  appear  that  the  conditional                   
clauses in  the existing legislation could  actually save it                   
from a finding of  unconstitutionality. For that reason, DOL                   
had  not expressly  come out  and suggested  rejection as  a                   
matter  of constitutional  law,  but wanted  to apprise  the                   
committee of the troubling nature  of skating somewhat close                   
to  some  of  the  constitutional lines  in  the  FAA  grant                   
assurances.                                                                    
                                                                               
Mr. Steiner  noted that a  difference would be  made between                   
public  and private  land-leasing. In  a private  land-lease                   
situation,  a  private  owner  may (but  need  not)  give  a                   
preference to an existing lessee  or existing tenant with or                   
without  improvements  on  the property.  Under  the  Alaska                   
Constitution, a public land-owner  in Alaska typically would                   
not give  a preference. House Bill  210 (as well as  HB 543)                   
tended to  suggest that the  state was even more  limited in                   
its public options  than a private land-owner  would be, and                   
should follow  an exclusive-rights model rather  than a more                   
competitive model. He reiterated  that the state's BIF would                   
protect it from ultimate unconstitutionality.                                  
                                                                               
Co-chair Sharp asked whether the  wording of the proposed CS                   
would limit the  state's ability to raise the  lease fees at                   
the time of  renewal or extension. Mr.  Steiner replied that                   
the  language  did not  appear  to  have any  limitation  on                   
raising the actual per-square-foot lease fee.                                  
                                                                               
Co-chair Sharp  asked whether the option  would be available                   
to the state  to at least get the lease  fees up to whatever                   
the  current  value  was  at  the time  of  any  renewal  or                   
extension. Mr.  Steiner answered  that it would  be possible                   
under HB 210  to the extent that the department  was able to                   
identify  the fair-market  value; the  distinction would  be                   
that   a  competitive   offering  might   discover  that   a                   
particular  property  actually  had a  higher  market  value                   
because of its specific location.  He referred to an earlier                   
question  about  the  transfer  of a  building  on  a  state                   
airport  lease and  whether the  state or  the owner  of the                   
building would get the advantage.  He asserted that the idea                   
was that  the owner  of the improvements  would be  paid the                   
value of  the improvements in the  situation. The difficulty                   
was  distinguishing the  premium for  the building  from the                   
premium for the  real estate; it appeared  very difficult to                   
separate  the  two  such  that   the  state  would  get  any                   
advantage  from the  premium  for the  real  estate. In  the                   
existing situation, it  would be very hard to  break out the                   
premium for the  real estate if there was a  assignment or a                   
sublease,  especially  if it  were  improved  and were  done                   
through a sublease  of a building rather than  just the land                   
or  through  an  assignment  of  the  lease,  in  which  the                   
building  and the  land  went together.  He  stated that  it                   
would be nearly  impossible to break out the  premium of the                   
real estate.                                                                   
                                                                               
Co-chair Sharp  asked whether he  had reviewed  the proposed                   
amendment.  Mr. Steiner  replied  that he  had the  proposed                   
amendment to the second section.                                               
                                                                               
Senator Adams read the language  in Section 2: "An extension                   
under  this subsection  may  not extend  a  contract for  an                   
additional  period  longer  than  the  original  term  of  a                   
contract,  except for  the holdover  for the  convenience of                   
the department."  He pointed  to a  new subsection  with the                   
language: "if the contractor  makes a substantial investment                   
in  leasehold  improvements subsequent  to  the  award of  a                   
contract  under this  section, the  commissioner may  modify                   
any contract  provisions that would increase  the contract's                   
payment because  of an  increase in  contract income  due to                   
leasehold  improvements." He  wondered whether  the language                   
[in the  amendment] was in  the state's best interest  or in                   
the  leaseholder's best  interest.  He  asked whether  there                   
were legal  issues in regards  to the way the  amendment was                   
drafted.                                                                       
                                                                               
Co-chair  Sharp  asked whether  Mr.  Steiner  had the  "K.1"                   
version  of Amendment  2. Mr.  Steiner replied  that he  did                   
not. He stated  that in the first portion  of the amendment,                   
he  had  the   language  (except  for  a   holdover  at  the                   
convenience of  the department). He  had a prior  version of                   
the subsection  (h) proposal; he  did not have  the specific                   
language read by Senator Adams.                                                
                                                                               
Co-chair Sharp stated that the  bill would be heard the next                   
day after sending the amendments to DOL.                                       
                                                                               
Mr. Rokeberg  commented that  the debate  had been  about HB
543. He  believed the  bill had been  passed because  of the                   
"complete distemper"  among the  aviation community  and the                   
legislature  with the  policies  and  implementation of  the                   
department;  he did  not think  any  further discretion  was                   
warranted.                                                                     
                                                                               
HB  210 was  HEARD and  HELD  by the  committee for  further                   
consideration.                                                                 
                                                                               

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